For context: 24 days in Northern Italy, with husband for the first ten days and kids ages 6 and 8 (all 24 days). Here is the link to the post I wrote prior to this trip. This trip is our second trip to Italy. The first one was back in 2024 and can be found here.

Specific places we stayed at were: Venice, the Dolomites (South Tyrol), lake Garda, Bologna, and the Adriatic coast. Each place had a “base” of 3 to 5 nights.

Activities aka how we spent our time: roaming the streets of ancient cities, a few museums, hiking, swimming, boats, animals, eating, playgrounds, and shopping.

Kids’ behavior. This trip felt harder – behavior-wise. We had many difficult moments where I felt… kind of powerless? Example. The kids were doing this thing called “a tickle fight” and they were LOUD and I was growing very frustrated because: there are other people next door. People who are trying to have a good time on VACATION and they don’t need two kids play-screaming in the apartment next door.

Also. My kids are 8 and 6 and are becoming so different in terms of parenting them.

My 8 year old is a growing girl, exhibiting some tween behavior already so strong emotions, things that wouldn’t bother her before are now BOTHERING her. And, number 1 thing that bothers her is her 6 year old BROTHER. I actually read up a little on parenting of 8 year old girls and yep, it is happening… The attitude, the eye rolls, the big emotions… L and I had a few conversations in Italy about the changes.

My son is 6. Generally, he listens but certainly has his moments… His sister annoys him as well.

I often got bitter when they were asking for things. Can we get ice cream? Can we get dumplings? (those squishy toys) Can we get make-up? (my daughter) Can we get a Lego set? (my son) Especially after my husband left, and I was managing them on my own, I felt myself getting quite frustrated with fielding all these requests. I said yes at times, and at times I said no. I said yes to make-up and a Lego set, but no to paying 6 euros for 10 minutes of trampoline or buying other stuff, like a giant plushie (that we can’t even bring on the plane).

Still, my kids returned from Italy with plentiful stuff: two books for each, a puzzle toy and a Lego set for my son, a dumpling for each kid, some Kiko Milano make-up items for my daughter, some stationary and planning things (markers, pens) from Legami Milano for both. A small coin purse for L (black and pink color because she loves Black Pink band). A small transformer toy for my son. A small Lego of a gondolier in Venice. A nail coloring book for L. Some key chains to bring back to their closest friends next door.

Evidence

I reflected back to our first international trip- to Iceland. My daughter was 4 and my son was 2. They were perfect. Just slept in the back of our rental car. Nobody was talking back or having an attitude. Every rock and pebble was a novelty. We got solidified lava as a gift and they thought it was the best thing ever… But I also should remind myself that R wouldn’t walk for long so I had to carry him and he was a big boy. So yeah, there were hard moments, too.

Iceland, 2022

Then we went to Spain and Portugal. Then Denmark. Then Paris. Then Italy. In 2025 it was France for 33 days. But this (second) Italian trip felt different. Harder.

Maybe, just maybe, it’s not the trip or the activities, or anything else. Maybe my kids are changing. Maybe, the kids are becoming too old to travel for an extended period of time like this?… Maybe they need something more structured… Maybe next summer they should be in camp, with other kids. Maybe they should travel separately. Maybe starting next year I only take one kid. Then another, the year after. Or, maybe I just go alone while they stay in New Jersey (I admit that I vocalized that idea during one of the difficult moments during this trip and the kids were NOT happy).

Anywho, enough complaining about my kids.

Activities. Overall, I am happy with the activities we did. We did NOT do Gardaland. Gardaland is an amusement park on lake Garda. Initially we wanted to do it but I had no energy after hiking in the Dolomites for 6 days. Plus, Gardaland was expensive.

Other than that, I am happy with the activities we did: the Doge Palace in Venice, Uffici Gallery in Florence, Bologna University, Bologna National gallery, Frida Kahlo exhibit in Bologna. Local libraries. Cable car lifts in the Dolomites. The beauty of the Dolomite mountains… The Witch’s Trail in the Dolomites. Beach days on the Adriatic.

Purchases. In addition to the above purchases for the kids, I also bought some stuff for myself.

I bought some fashion jewelry (not real gold): a statement ring, 2 pairs of earrings. Some make-up and skin care (we are in Europe, after all). Let’s not forget things like museum tickets. Although the kids went in for free most of the time OR at a very reduced rate. I did not purchase any clothing, and I regret it. Italy had some awesome clothes, shoes and accessories. Especially in Bologna. I had my eyes on a leather crossbody bag, summer shoes, and a belt…I did not buy them. I should have. I did treat myself to some stationary, a new 2027-2028 planner. Some pens. Ninety euros for the evening gondola ride.

Duration of stays. We should have stayed longer in: Venice and lake Garda. We stayed in each place for three nights. I would want to take some days from the Dolomites and Bologna to add some days to lake Garda and Venice. In lake Garda I would want a week, next time. In Venice, I would want at least four to five days – to see more museums, like the Peggy Guggenheim collection museum and the Murano + Burano islands.

Transport. This trip was completed entirely by public transport. I have felt validated multiple times for cancelling the car in Northern Italy. Trains worked just as well, if not better. All of the accommodations were a 15 minute walk (max) from the train station. And I didn’t have to stress about parking/tolls/directions. Yes, we had our carry-on but really it was fine.

Packing. I wore EVERYTHING I packed except one blue shirt and my scarf. I packed the scarf for the plane, because our flight to Brussels was awfully cold. I ended up NOT using the scarf. I thought of leaving the blue shirt in Italy as well.

Paris. Summer’25. The blue shirt

Do you have questions about this trip? Do you have tips on parenting an 8 year old girl? How about a 6 year old boy?


27 responses to “Italian trip: postmortem”

  1. joymariecooks Avatar

    Oh no please don’t tell me the 8 yo girl and 6 yo boy dynamic is worse than a 6 yo girl and 4 yo boy! Noooooo!!!! I was hoping as they mature a bit they’d get along more often. When my 6 and 4 year old get along they get along GREAT and when they don’t OH MY GOSH.

    We are wrapping up three weeks on the road with all four kids (the 6 and 4 year old are the oldest two). I feel you very deeply on the tickle fights and there are other people who are trying to rest/relax/enjoy.! Traveling is wonderful in that we have gotten to see so many people we love including 9 days at my parents’ which was a true vacation for us parents. But also I am very very over road tripping with four small kids.

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  2. joymariecooks Avatar

    Oh no please don’t tell me the 8 yo girl and 6 yo boy dynamic is worse than a 6 yo girl and 4 yo boy! Noooooo!!!! I was hoping as they mature a bit they’d get along more often. When my 6 and 4 year old get along they get along GREAT and when they don’t OH MY GOSH. 

    We are wrapping up three weeks on the road with all four kids (the 6 and 4 year old are the oldest two). I feel you very deeply on the tickle fights and there are other people who are trying to rest/relax/enjoy.! Traveling is wonderful in that we have gotten to see so many people we love including 9 days at my parents’ which was a true vacation for us parents. But also I am very very over road tripping with four small kids. 

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Hi Joy, yeah… I always thought that as kids get older, it gets easier. Well, in some ways, it does. In other ways… it doesn’t.

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  3. Coco Avatar

    sorry about the parenting challenges, especially when you were alone with two. Sibling fights are common if not the norm, it’s a process and there are good days and bad ones. I don’t have boys so I could only share girls’ dynamics as they grew. I find them behaving better (relatively speaking) when traveling than when at home (since they could play with friends instead of the sibling). We also reach to the point that they usually stay in one room while me and husband stays in another which gives me few hours of peace. But it’s hard.

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    1. Daria Avatar

      We do separate rooms as well… they still love getting under each other’s skin..

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  4. Nicole MacPherson Avatar

    The Dolomites are on my “to-visit” list, as is Bologna!

    I do think that parenting has to change as the children grow older. I can’t speak for parenting girls, but my own outlook and parenting shifted as the boys grew. As they become more and more their own “people” we as parents need to take on a more “support” role, as opposed to the days when they’d just fall asleep in the car. I think parenting is one of the most dynamic things that we do, every week and month is different, and just as they change, their needs change. It becomes more and more important for them to have a say in their lives – so yes, in some ways it’s easier when we are totally in charge, but allowing them to make more decisions and their own autonomy is so important. That’s not to say it’s easy, because it’s not! That said, it’s been a while since I’ve had a six or eight year old!

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Dear Nicole, thank you for your insight. It is comforting to know that kids change and the dynamic changes. Like you said, they are becoming these “people”… I think sometimes when they are born, all slimy, and purple (they pink up afterwards). My son came so fast he was blue… And then they become these buttholes with opinions.

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  5. Elisabeth Avatar

    Parenting definitely shifts over time. My daughter loves to push her brother’s buttons and he has a lot of buttons to push.

    The requests are hard. Especially because I grew up with… NONE of these things. Getting an ice cream or two out in a single year was a huge deal to me. And they just “expect” more because that’s all they’ve ever known. So I want them to experience these things I wish I’d had access to as a kid, but I want them to be as awed by little things as I would have been since I didn’t go anywhere very exciting at their age.

    I think that’s what I find the hardest to manage. Expectations and a certain sense of entitlement. That said, I also realize I AM asking a lot of them to do travel like this as it’s a lot of work and takes energy.

    All that to say: I FEEL YOU. And you are a great mom and doing an incredible job of exposing your kids to all sorts of adventures and it feels hard because it is hard, but they WILL look back with fond memories of these adventures. Also, there’s nothing wrong with pivoting to something slightly different than feels better (shorter trips, 1-on-1 travel).

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Elisabeth, I am in a similar boat… I grew up in the 90s Russia sooo very poor and… in economic and political instability.
      I think sometimes, so it’s just an ice cream but like you said, entitlement…

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  6. satavtarkhalsa Avatar
    satavtarkhalsa

    I appreciate hearing your postmortem of the trip. The dynamics between siblings are often shifting in my house. There is a lot of bugging each other at the moment. I like traveling with my kids but they kind of need some separate activities even if it’s just reading or playing in different rooms.
    It sounds like a cool experience overall. I’m curious what you decide for future summers.

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Definitely- separate rooms, reading, going outside.
      I am not sure what I’ll decide but that is something to think about. These trips are for me, too so I should be able to enjoy them, without constantly being pulled in two different directions.

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  7. Kari Avatar

    I am so impressed with you taking small children on faraway vacations, Daria. I had one child with sensory needs, so travel was not always the easiest option for our family. Watching you do this is so much fun for me. I’m not a big traveler myself (I have sensory needs too), so I truly enjoy watching my blog friends go places I might never visit. It makes me feel like I get to experience them right along with you! 😘💜

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Kari! Thanks for stopping by. I actually had to insert earbuds int my ears with no music just to keep the noise at bay at the airport. The plane itself was relatively okay- the hum of engines was comforting. I am sensitive to noise, especially the screamin of my (or other people) children.

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  8. jennystancampiano Avatar
    jennystancampiano

    Oof. Sibling dynamics can be hard. And it’s frustrating that just when you feel like you’ve got it all figured out, it changes. I won’t be of much help here because at one point, my daughter got so difficult to travel with, I just decided not to do it. We haven’t had a family vacation in over five years. I’m pretty sure you don’t want to go that route!

    It sounds like there were still a lot of fun moments on this trip. And I guess the kids had fun, since they weren’t happy with your idea to go without them next year!

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Hi Jenny, thank you for your comment. Parenting truly is hard… but it is comforting to see that other families struggle with behavior as well.

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  9. NGS Avatar
    NGS

    I have no parenting advice, but I want you to know that’s it’s amazing you offer these opportunities to your kids. It would also be awesome if they went to camp! It would be awesome if they sat around all summer at the pool! You are a good mom and that means that they’ll do well with whatever plan you come up with for them.

    (Also, my sister and I never got along. We still don’t. It’s okay. Not all sibling relationships are great.)

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Oh thank you so much for your kind words- they mean a lot. I always second guess myself, but try not to.

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  10. Common Household Mom Avatar

    I hear you on the tween behavior! My oldest, a girl, started sassing back in a tween style far earlier than I expected. I kept blowing my top, until I decided to invent and write down “Commandments 11-20” which were variations on “You shall not talk back to your parent.” I posted them on the wall in the kitchen. Then I could calmly say to her, pointing to the list, “You have broken Commandment 14. Go to your room, please,” without me getting angry. It didn’t solve everything, but it helped me to calm down which was 3/4 of the battle. I don’t think I referred to it while traveling, though.

    I don’t think we ever tried to take our three kids on a trip which required going from one place to another. (I would think seeing the next new place would cut down on kids’ boredom.) We mostly went to places where we gathered with the extended family in one place for a week, so there were cousins thrown into the mix of how the kids behaved. Cousins can egg each other on to all sorts of mischievous behavior.

    All that to say that there is no easy solution and I think it is marvelous that you are taking your children to such interesting places. My belief is that seeing how other people / countries do things can change a person’s brain synapses and make the traveler more open to new ideas, something the world needs.

    As you were going through the treats you provided for the kids, I was thinking, but did she get anything for herself? So glad to see that you did! I myself love to get interesting earrings. I love the ones you chose.

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Carolyn – thank you for this perspective!!! My daughter is 8 and ATTITUDE – I joked the other day with my husband how I want to send her to a summer camp in Russia. He goes “re-education camp?”

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  11. Stephany Avatar

    I have no parenting advice, but I will say something from the other side. My brother and I were 14 months apart and we fought TERRIBLY as kids. I still remember the day we were at a grocery store and my brother and I couldn’t stop bickering with each other, so my mom just left the cart in the middle of the aisle and took us home. There were fruit snacks in that cart! Man. But now my brother and I are super close and never fight. It’s hard when the kids are so close in age and let me tell you, nobody knows how to push someone’s buttons better than a sibling. I still know EXACTLY how to push my brother’s buttons, lol.

    I love the idea of leaving them at home so you can travel solo – ha. But I know you want to give these experiences to them. Hopefully, as they grow older, they will be able to appreciate it more, too. ❤

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    1. Daria Avatar

      Not the fruit snacks!!!!!!!! Oh, your mom is bad-ass, good for her! Thank you for sharing your persopective, my kids are two year apart and yeah, they get under each other’s skin.

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  12. Sophie Avatar

    I’ve definitely had some of those challenges when travelling with kids. The frustration when they are SO lucky to be taken places (much more than when I was a kid), and yet they also seem to ask for MORE. My kids said the other day “Mum, we haven’t been to a hotel in AGES.” as if they are deprived. (We spent a week in a hotel in Melbourne in December). Luckily Eleanor is 9 but not yet too bad with the attitude, although she does think she knows everything, more than her parents. But she is still sweet with her little brother.

    Anyway, no answers for you, but just want to say you are AMAZING to do this kind of travel with youngish kids, mostly SOLO. I mean, honestly Daria, more Mums just wouldn’t do that at all. (I wouldn’t – I would go insane in about 5 minutes haha). So whatever you decide going forward you’ve already offered such amazing experiences to your kids (and yourself), so give yourself a big pat on the back.

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    I can only travel with one kid at a time if I am on my own and right now, I far prefer traveling with Paul because he is so happy go lucky. I had a super challenging 1:1 trip to Chicago with Will and am not jumping to go somewhere with him again. He has the BIGGEST feelings and the slightest thing might set him off. It’s hard. He’s a sweet child but I can’t handle the big feelings at times. Like when I asked him how he slept this morning he screamed ‘I don’t want to talk about it!’ Ooookay! So all this is to say that you are so brave to do these big trips with your kids. We are finally considering another family trip to Florida for next spring. Our last trip was 2+ years ago and it did not go well. I thought – why are we spending all this money to be frustrated and gritting our teeth in a different zip code. I don’t think we will attempt international travel for 3-5 more years, if not further off. Well, unless their personalities change. Oh and the sibling fights are terrible. It’s almost comical what they fight over. Like this afternoon I tasked them with wiping down the patio table and chairs since we have company coming over and to put the chairs back around the table when they were done and they somehow fought over that! I am constantly saying ‘get off your brother/stop fighting/stop touching each other’. It’s so tiring!!

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  16. Tobia | craftaliciousme Avatar

    You know I love that you expose your kids to so much traveling and exploring. And I think it is totally legit that it can feel hard. We always traveled for 2 or 3 weeks with my parents and I need to ask my mom how hard it was. I remember stupid fights in the car that annoyed my parents.

    I also remember my parents giving us summer money. Like a bit of additional pocket money and we could spent it on souvenirs or extra ice cream or what not. That probably took away some discussions. And all gifts for friends must also be paid by that. It helped thinking about what we wanted and I remember I bought a sweater in Italy I still own and wear back in 1997.

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    1. Daria Avatar

      I love the fact that friends’ gifts are from allowance. That’s meaning business.

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